|
|
Post by Nova Scotia Titans on Jun 8, 2013 11:03:32 GMT -5
5 million a year! Man, Dallas really loves paying big bucks to old guys!
|
|
|
|
Post by International Hockey Club on Jun 8, 2013 11:12:22 GMT -5
Gonchar, like the Wizard, can still play, though.
Also, I have an interesting proposal.
To Carolina: #13 and #59
To Winnipeg: #5
#5 then gets used on Valeri Nichushkin, and Kane now has a RW. ShyFly can center.
|
|
|
|
Post by International Hockey Club on Jun 8, 2013 18:16:10 GMT -5
Interesting idea: Rank your Top 5 NHL GMs.
Here's mine.
5. Garth Snow (Islanders) - It's a known fact that Mike Milbury made the Rick DiPietro contract a thing and Snow merely signed the papers. Since then, however, he has succeeded in many ways. He opened up cap room for the team's last playoff birth before this year and landed Ryan Smyth, M-A Bergeron, and Richard Zednik who got them to that berth. Snow also drafts incredibly well in late rounds, looking at names like Casey Cizikas, Travis Hamonic, Matt Martin, Matt Donovan, David Ullstrom, Kirill Kabanov, Anders Nilsson, and Anders Lee all coming in the fourth or later. This year, he picked up Lubomir Visnovsky for a mid-round pick and the team made the playoffs, and are well stocked for the future. Snow is getting better as he gets experience.
4. Lou Lamoriello (Devils) - In the mid-80s, the New Jersey Devils were going nowhere. Byrne Arena was half empty. The team was terrible. Wayne Gretzky famously called the Devils a "Mickey Mouse organization." Things were dark in the Garden (read: shit) State. Then, Lamoriello happened. In his first year, the Devils captivated by going all the way to the Wales Conference Final; since then, they've won 3 Stanley Cups and have gone to the Finals two other times. It helps that he hired two legendary coaches to run the bench in Jacques Lemaire and Larry Robinson.
3. Peter Chiarelli (Bruins) - When Chiarelli took over, the Bruins were not a very good team. One of his first moves of business is one of his famous ones: trading Andrew Raycroft for the rights to Tuukka Rask. He signed Zdeno Chara. He drafted well. Within two years the Bruins were back in the playoffs, nearly upsetting the #1 seeded Canadiens in Round 1 in 2008. Before 2009-10, he made one his best trades, again at the expense of the Toronto Maple Leafs: sending the Leafs Phil Kessel for picks that turned into Tyler Seguin, Jared Knight, and Dougie Hamilton, and two years later won a Stanley Cup.
2. David Poile (Predators) - While there was a dropoff this year due to a lack of scoring, Poile built an expansion Predators into a great team using the best tool to use in building a franchise: the draft. He hired Barry Trotz. He's never had a bad goalie, from Dunham to Vokoun to Mason to Rinne. Before that, he made the Washington Capitals relevant, and the year after he left, the Caps made the Stanley Cup Finals.
1. Ken Holland (Red Wings) - Of course. The king of drafting. 3 Stanley Cups, and just one game away from a fourth. Making the playoffs despite losing first the greatest leader in the NHL and later the second-best defenseman of all time. The one who found gems like Pavel Datsyuk and Henrik Zetterberg in the late rounds. A man whose team has made the playoffs every year under him. The accomplishments speak for themselves.
|
|
|
|
Post by Nova Scotia Titans on Jun 8, 2013 19:06:46 GMT -5
1. Lou Lamoriello
2. Ken Holland
3. Peter Chiarelli
4. Ray Shero
5. Dean Lombardi
|
|
|
|
Post by International Hockey Club on Jun 8, 2013 20:37:23 GMT -5
Shero is overrated. Of his draft picks, let's see who's still there:
2006 - nobody
2007 - Jeffrey, Grant, and Veilleux
2008 - nobody
2009 - Despres, Samuelsson
2010 - Beauregard, Kuhnhackl (who spends more time hurt or suspended than he does playing hockey), McNeill
2011 - Harrington, Uher (Scott Wilson is still in college)
And his trades were moreso awful moves by the other GM (who usually sucked or had little experience) than good moves by him. SJ is actually better without Murray, too.... went from 9th to 6th without him, picked up two draft picks, and every player saw their Corsi go up.
|
|
|
|
Post by Nova Scotia Titans on Jun 8, 2013 21:01:42 GMT -5
 Come on, with the talented guys they have commanding such huge salaries, it's not surprising that they don't have a ton of their draft picks still with them. You can't have it both ways in the salary cap era, besides, they done really good considering all that's happened over the years since Shero's been GM. And really, they've only made a few trades of any real significance (at least right now). Which GM's are you referring to, because I can't find any who really sucked or were new to the job. |
|
|
|
Post by Ryan on Jun 8, 2013 21:30:49 GMT -5
I don't pay enough attention to vote
|
|
|
|
Post by Nova Scotia Titans on Jun 8, 2013 21:49:28 GMT -5
Lol Mike Richards
|
|
|
|
Post by International Hockey Club on Jun 8, 2013 22:00:05 GMT -5
Come on, with the talented guys they have commanding such huge salaries, it's not surprising that they don't have a ton of their draft picks still with them. You can't have it both ways in the salary cap era, besides, they done really good considering all that's happened over the years since Shero's been GM. And really, they've only made a few trades of any real significance (at least right now). Which GM's are you referring to, because I can't find any who really sucked or were new to the job. Don Waddell (Hossa/Dupuis trade) was horrible...everyone knows that. But hey, we wound up indirectly getting an extra second rounder this year, since we didn't sign the guy the Thrashers took with the Penguins pick (Daultan Leveille)...plus O'Dell (who Atlanta got for Christensen) might make the Jets next year after how good he was for St. John's this year (Him and Kael Mouillierat were the only bright spots this year) Nieuwendyk (Neal and Morrow trades) was just as bad....but he DEFINITELY won the Morrow trade. Brenden didn't deliver a cup and I can't see him coming back, while Joe has a bright future. Bob Murray was in his third month on the job when he traded Kunitz and Tangradi for Whitney....but they wound up flipping Whitney for Visnovsky. Take that however you want. Jay Feaster's just an overall idiot. He probably still thinks the Flames can make the playoffs. He refused to blow up the team when some guys had actual value. Now he's sorta stuck...and with the Iginla debacle, he should have just told Shero "look, we have a deal with Boston that we feel is superior to yours (it was)" and told Iginla "you said you'd waive your NTC to go to Boston, goodbye." He's a master troll anyway with the Ryan O'Reilly thing lol I will give him credit on the Staal trade....but then he went out and didn't take the BPA (Forsberg...but if he wanted a defenseman, Trouba) |
|
|
|
Post by International Hockey Club on Jun 8, 2013 22:00:33 GMT -5
Well that was a plot twist out in Chicago.
|
|
|
|
Post by Ryan on Jun 8, 2013 22:08:30 GMT -5
said to my wife with 32 seconds left "would be funny if the Kings scored"...
if LA can score in OT, it could shift the series momentum to their favor and propel them to the finals.
|
|
|
|
Post by International Hockey Club on Jun 8, 2013 22:10:00 GMT -5
I don't pay enough attention to vote unrelated note: that was your 2000th post on the forums:3 |
|
|
|
Post by Nova Scotia Titans on Jun 8, 2013 22:42:35 GMT -5
Yay, welcome to the 2000 post club!
I'm still thinking that Chicago wins this series, one way or another.
|
|
|
|
Post by International Hockey Club on Jun 8, 2013 22:44:48 GMT -5
DOUBLE THE FUN.
The 2OT games have been the best games so far!
|
|
|
|
Post by Nova Scotia Titans on Jun 8, 2013 23:11:14 GMT -5
It's a Chicago-Boston Stanley Cup Final! Who do you think it's gonna be? I say Chicago in 6 games!
|
|
